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Ugly

 

In the past 48 hours, I've been exposed to a very ugly side of Christianity. I wasn't going to write about it, but I'm brimming with it at this point, so it goes on the blog.

At the Des Moines Tea Party, there were some speakers who spouted anti-gay, anti-abortion, pro-Christian-nation rhetoric. It started with the opening prayer and continued on through. Now you tell me - what exactly does that have to do with limited government, less government spending, and lower taxation? Answer - nothing. Oh, I'm sure some creative mind out there will tell you they're quite related. But from where I sit, they're oil and water. Plenty of gays and pro-choicers and non-Christians care about limited government, less government spending, and lower taxation. Don't they have a place at the table? Don't we need their help in this fiscal fight?

So after the event, as one of the organizers, I spoke up within the group and said that if we continue like that, I can't help organize the movement because not only am I not a Christian, but I think it's counter-productive and limiting and therefore hurtful to the cause. I said so privately.

The next thing I knew, I started getting emails like this from people I didn't know who misspelled my name:

If Mr. Rodgers would like it to be a secular humanist worldview, he will have a very difficult time trying to form a moral or philosophical foundation to oppose out of control taxes. What happens when you have a secularist world view. Hmmm Nazi Germany, Stalinist Soviet Union, China under Mao, and Cuba under Castro. Yes you are right, a secular humanist view is indeed the way to go!
Yeah... so for asserting that the Tea Party agenda and rhetoric shouldn't be restrictive, folks like me are now the reason why Hitler came to power, according to a few Christian leaders out there. (Yes, leaders - this example came from a guy whom I've never met who pastors a local church.)

I ask: if I'm not a Christian and I don't share the agenda of making America a Christian nation, where is exactly is my place in this country, according to the Christian? Because pardon me, but I just spent a lot of time working damn hard to preserve liberty in this country - and succeeded in helping to bring 3,000 people to the state capitol - and for that, I'm told that people like me are part of the reason tyranny and communism get traction?

A few points/questions:

  1. What do you suppose my picture of Christianity is now? Or am I just an irrelevant carbon footprint since I am not interested in being evangelized at this time?
  2. How do these abrasive Christians intend to partner with non-Christians to achieve anything if they're defensive and strident in presenting their Christian view at every opportunity? (I was told by one person that I was being "exclusionary" because I didn't support "free speech for Christians." So I guess you're anti-first-amendment unless you support them saying their spiel at every public event.)
  3. How representative of Christianity is this?
I ask the last question because yesterday I was at a business meeting and was introduced to a well-known Christian, who made the assumption that I was a Christian, and during the conversation asked me about the state of my walk with Christ.

"Well, I used to be a Christian. I'm not one now."

At which point her face showed her clear distaste for me and she later said, "Have fun avoiding God!" as we said our goodbyes.

Seriously?

And the weird thing is that I was there to discuss perhaps helping her improve her promotion of herself. At least I know it's one less email I need to write...

I have to say, if I were Jesus and this were my brand being trashed like this, I'd be firing some folks. How do you attract people to the brand without diluting the brand? That's not hard.

(And I have another example, but I won't go into it - I think I've made my point.)

I once lived in Corvallis, Oregon. I remember going to OSU's campus for the first time and seeing these two guys, standing in front of a huge cross, yelling that everyone was a sinner and going to hell. Successful? Nope. Nobody talked to these guys. Everyone walked around them in a big circle to avoid contact.

I ask: how removed from that is my recent experience?

I used to be a Christian. The last thing Jesus said on earth was to go make disciples of all nations. Do you do that by taking non-Christians for granted, forcing your morality out there for others to adopt, and being rude?

It's a big world out there. If you want people to come play in your sandbox, don't you have to first treat other people like you want to be treated? Or perhaps as Jesus would want you to treat them, if you are a Christian?

What would he do?

 

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by Brett Rogers, 4/19/2009 1:42:42 AM
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Odd

 

Someone suggested to me today that the purpose of law was to legislate a moral order in society.

I said that I thought laws were written to protect the liberty of people from others who would usurp it.

"Murder is, by law, illegal because it's immoral. That's why the law was written," said he.

"Really?" I questioned. "You don't think murder was outlawed because it robs a person of liberty? Because if morality was the basis of laws, there would be no end of laws. Where's the limited government in that?"

 

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by Brett Rogers, 4/18/2009 1:12:53 AM
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Games

 

You know, I know of only one thing that all humanity cries out for:

Liberty.

Though I don't agree with all of his judicial recommendations, Justice William Douglas did say this, "The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedom."

If a man does not, in any way, injure another man, can there be any crime that requires law to meddle in his liberty?

Jefferson said, "It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." It doesn't matter whether your god is Hindu or Muslim or Christian or Jew or the nearest ashtray - if you do not injure another person or constrain another's liberties, there need be no law for your choices or your behavior. Whether or not I agree with your choices and your behavior, in a civil society I am out of bounds when I am in your business that does no harm to anyone else.

Pushing for liberty is not always easy.

 

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by Brett Rogers, 4/16/2009 10:10:29 PM
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Cool Day

 

It's amazing what happens when you put a pole in the ground called Liberty. People flock to it.

 

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by Brett Rogers, 4/16/2009 12:11:50 AM
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What Programs?

 

A friend of mine who is helping to coordinate the Des Moines Tea Party event sends me this:

Early this morning I watched a FOX NEWS program that had critics of all the Tea Parties throughout the country. Their perspective is 'What services do you want to cut if you want lower taxes? You can't have your cake and eat it too.'
I hope I get asked that question. My question back is: do you really believe that the American people are that helpless that they require the government to gin up all of these services and programs in the first place? Consider this...
  • Nobody believes that Social Security is sustainable.
  • Nobody believes that Medicare/Medicaid is sustainable.
  • Nobody believes that the tax code is comprehendable or even right.
  • Nobody believes that government works hard to avoid waste.
  • Nobody believes that politicians are full of honesty and integrity.
  • Nobody expects the health care in this country to improve its quality if government institutes nationalized health care.
I could go on and on...

So why would anyone trust the government with more money or power? How does that make sense?

To directly answer the question, "What services should be cut?" I would answer, "Every one that the American people can do better and more efficiently than the government - which is likely to be almost every one of them."

  • Social Security is bankrupt. Even with the current problems in the markets, our children and grandchildren won't have to pay a gazillion dollars to make up the difference in Baby Boomer retirements. The American people are more efficient.
  • Medicare/Medicaid are bankrupt, unless we pick the pockets of our kids and grandkids. The American people are more efficient.
  • The tax code is tens of thousands of pages long. The American people are more efficient.
  • How many jokes are there about the government and waste? The government is never a model for efficiency. The American people are more efficient.
  • Politicians serve their own interests, not ours. The American people are more efficient.
  • Our health care system is quite good and offers choice to the consumer. The American people are more efficient at running it and funding it than government.
In short, the American people individually are more efficient than the government ever could be. The solution is to let people be free to choose their own paths. Freedom is always the best solution.

 

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by Brett Rogers, 4/14/2009 8:39:35 AM
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Thoughts for the Day

 

Retro in a hotel room decor is a cool look.

Surprise - I like sushi!

I'm utterly amazed at the amount of email I get these days about the Des Moines Tea Party on April 15th.

My prediction for next year's American Idol winner: AJ (you heard it here first).

The 757 is a really uncomfortable plane for big guys like me. Especially a window seat. (Think Mr. Incredible in his car...)

I miss my wife. Life is always better when she's next to me sharing the adventure. (We're both traveling at the moment.)

Politicians today don't speak at all about the rationale behind the documents of our country's foundation. Nor do they seem to get it, if they're even aware of it...

Fearlessness is the best way to run at life, with both guns blazin'...

 

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by Brett Rogers, 4/14/2009 1:15:42 AM
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9-12 Project Tea Party - More Pictures

 

 

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by Brett Rogers, 4/12/2009 4:21:11 PM
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9-12 Project Tea Party Photos

 

 

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by Brett Rogers, 4/11/2009 9:48:07 PM
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My Tea Party Sign

 

My Tea Party sign will read:

I hope it comes across as absolutely smarmy as I intend it.

Do love children enough to protect them?

 

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by Brett Rogers, 4/11/2009 10:52:21 AM
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Shut Up, Brilliantly Said

 

 

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by Brett Rogers, 4/11/2009 7:20:23 AM
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