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by Brett Rogers, 10/7/2008 8:49:04 PM


Dude, I thought you were joking. Shaking my head here.

This debate format sucks. 1 minute isn't enough to respond in many instances and the inability to challenge responses directly lets Barry say pretty much what he wants. Brokaw looks incompetent consistently whining about running over time. If the limit was that important cut the Mike at 1 minute 15 seconds.

When Obama said health care is a right McCain didn't have the opportunity to call him out for socializing medicine. He will get hit hard on it though by the pundits. Unfortunately that may not translate to the majority of the voting population who don't have the intelligence to understand.



Posted by Pale Rider, 10/7/2008 10:27:36 PM

I shouldn't be posting anything tonight. I've been pissed off since seeing my 401k cross 30% into the red for the year at today's market close.

What a lousy debate. Pretty much 90 minutes to spout talking points. I turned off the tv, I don't want to listen to the pundits. I saw enough.

I just don't think McCain is up to the challenge. Warren Buffet (backing your opponent), Meg Whitman for treasury secretary? No mention of Mitt?




Posted by Pale Rider, 10/7/2008 11:07:24 PM

It's an insult to our nation's issues to reduce them to one-minute soundbite answers. Who learns anything substantive from that?



Posted by Brett Rogers (, 10/7/2008 11:09:43 PM

Dude, you're dead-on about the ill suggestion of Warren Buffet for Sec Treasury.

I told my wife halfway through that if I had a shot for McCain's every use of "My friend(s)" I would have been plastered in the second question.

Good god... I hate this election.



Posted by Brett Rogers (, 10/7/2008 11:32:13 PM

I turned the TV off after Warren Buffet was mentioned, by McCain. My jaw about hit the floor when he said that. I did watch the rerun later. It didn't get much better, did it?



Posted by Kelly, 10/8/2008 3:10:06 AM

No Kelly, it didn't. 4am here and this has had me tossing and turning all night.

I started ripping Obama in my first post for socializing healthcare in his response that it is a "right." McCain led off with the 300 billion mortgage bailout proposal so homeowners could re-negotiate their mortgages at current market values. Isn't this making home ownership a "right?" I've commented before on this and actually would accept it if combined with personal responsibility (i.e., you can afford the new mortgage at a fixed rate determined by the market, NOT government). McCain did not clarify this (devil is in the details John) and left many of us conservatives wondering if "crap sandwich 3.0" is on the way.

I think we conservatives have gotten suckered in backing McCain. We love Palin but she doesn't change who McCain really is. We can't view him thru the 'Cuda lense. Tonight we saw the "Maverick" who is more interested in "my friends" than leading. This is McCain-Feingold Maverick. Shamnesty Maverick. Our "hope" won't "change" who he truly is.



Posted by Pale Rider, 10/8/2008 4:52:24 AM

No, it didn't get much better.

I do give credit to McCain for at least trying to address hard issues. But his core problem is this: he believes in government. Reagan never taught him the foundation of conservatism: government is the problem.

Reagan wanted to remove government from our lives.

Both candidates in this election want to make us proud of our government by putting it front and center.

To hell with that. After sleeping on it, McCain lost me last night. His plugs for McCain-Feingold and his stupid legislation with Joe Lieberman told me that he's saying anything to get elected. As I'm trying to skewer Obama by pointing to Obama's proposed legislation, I could do the same with McCain.

The only place where I respect McCain is foreign policy/military, and that's enough that I'll pull for him on election day, but I'm not campaigning for him. He's simply the better of the two, and not by much.

By the way, I do think that those of us in the cheap seats are gonna get shellacked by the time the accounting for our front-and-center government is over. But our president and representatives should try to reduce that as much as possible.



Posted by Brett Rogers (, 10/8/2008 8:36:57 AM

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